Steve Mac­chia, author and founder of Lead­er­ship Trans­for­ma­tions, shares insights on cul­ti­vat­ing dis­cern­ment as a lis­ten­ing lifestyle — rather than mere­ly a deci­sion-mak­ing strat­e­gy — and how to humbly place God’s agen­da ahead of our own.

Show Notes

[2:00] You take a dif­fer­ent spin of sorts on the top­ic of dis­cern­ment. Could you share with us a lit­tle about some of your think­ing on that? 

[4:14] What does a dis­cern­ing life look like going beyond big decision-making? 

[7:05] What did that look like for you today to lean into dis­cern­ing life? 

[10:50] You have a phrase in the book that I just love and it’s prac­tic­ing a pref­er­ence for God.” Can you talk a lit­tle about that?

[14:35] There’s a sort of cer­tain humil­i­ty that is required to even look or ask. If I got it all fig­ured out, I’m not nec­es­sar­i­ly going to look for God’s opin­ion on some­thing, right?

[17:30] The prayer I’ll often do is, Hey, if you’ve got an opin­ion here, I’m open.” It just feels good in a way, to go this isn’t all about me, right?

[19:25] There are oth­er times where there’s an ease to it. Do you relate to that? 

[22:15] How do peo­ple know they’re on the right track?

[26.20:]What does this look like for a leader? How does dis­cern­ment work itself out in the day to day?

[28:23] Lead­ers want to bring some­thing, want to help, feel an inter­nal or exter­nal respon­si­bil­i­ty to do such, but for you to bring lis­ten­ing, dis­cern­ing — what you’re doing is a min­istry to your team, right?

[31:10] Share with me a cou­ple of things going on with Lead­er­ship Trans­for­ma­tions that folks could be involved with.

[33:13] One of your major con­tri­bu­tions is the rule of life book. And then the dis­cern­ment book. Do those inter­sect?


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