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Life with God · Episode 230

Steve Macchia — Practicing a Preference for God

Steve Macchia, author and founder of Leadership Transformations, shares insights on cultivating discernment as a listening lifestyle — rather than merely a decision-making strategy — and how to humbly place God’s agenda ahead of our own.

Show Notes

[2:00] You take a different spin of sorts on the topic of discernment. Could you share with us a little about some of your thinking on that? 

[4:14] What does a discerning life look like going beyond big decision-making? 

[7:05] What did that look like for you today to lean into discerning life? 

[10:50] You have a phrase in the book that I just love and it’s practicing a preference for God.” Can you talk a little about that?

[14:35] There’s a sort of certain humility that is required to even look or ask. If I got it all figured out, I’m not necessarily going to look for God’s opinion on something, right?

[17:30] The prayer I’ll often do is, Hey, if you’ve got an opinion here, I’m open.” It just feels good in a way, to go this isn’t all about me, right?

[19:25] There are other times where there’s an ease to it. Do you relate to that? 

[22:15] How do people know they’re on the right track?

[26.20:]What does this look like for a leader? How does discernment work itself out in the day to day?

[28:23] Leaders want to bring something, want to help, feel an internal or external responsibility to do such, but for you to bring listening, discerning — what you’re doing is a ministry to your team, right?

[31:10] Share with me a couple of things going on with Leadership Transformations that folks could be involved with.

[33:13] One of your major contributions is the rule of life book. And then the discernment book. Do those intersect?

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Published on March 21, 2022
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Steve Macchia
About the Guest
Steve Macchia

Rev. Dr. Stephen A. Macchia is a thought-provoking author and is the Founder and President of Leadership Transformations, Inc (LTI). LTI focuses on the spiritual formation needs of leaders and the spiritual discernment processes of leadership teams in the local church and parachurch ministry settings nationwide. He is also the Director of the Pierce Center for Discipleship-Building at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.

He and his wife, Ruth, live in beautiful Lexington, MA and enjoy spending time with their two grown children and three beloved grandchildren.

Nathan Foster
About the Host
Nathan Foster

Nathan Foster is an author and host of Life With God, a Renovaré Podcast. Formerly, he was an Associate Professor of social work and served as the Andrews Chair in Spiritual Formation at Spring Arbor University. He was also a licensed clinical social worker and certified addictions counselor. Nathan has published two books, including The Making of an Ordinary Saint: My Journey from Frustration to Joy with the Spiritual Disciplines.