Alan Fadling, Kristi Gaultiere, Steve Macchia — Leadership Soul Care
In this episode, Nathan interviews Alan Fadling of Unhurried Living, Kristi Gaultiere of Soul Shepherding, and Steve Macchia of Leadership Transformations to discuss spiritual formation and soul care for leaders.
Show Notes
[5:45] Why leaders? What was it in you that you felt to compelled to move in that direction?
[9:55] What are some of the challenges that leaders in the Christian community face today?
[13:20] I’d take it a little further and say that in our current society it’s a virtue not to rest, to keep pushing through. How does a leader break out of that system that is pulling them do to more and more, and of being more closed, of not sharing or not feeling safe or that there is space to share?
[18:10] All three of you provide safe spaces for people. What would you say to someone who’s not connected to a program or ministry that’s caring for their soul, who really wants to be open, vulnerable, honest? How do you do that when you’re surrounded in a community that needs you to have everything together?
[25:17] When we rest or slow down, sometimes emotions come up, and that’s quite normal. This is a unique season in history that is an opportunity for a reset, a chance to make some shifts. How can lay folk best help their leaders?
[31:45] What is the Biblical view of sabbatical?
[33:00] These 3 pieces of covenant and support and sabbatical – What if elder boards demanded a sort of health; not just encouraging sabbatical (and boundaries and rest and health) but demanding it, setting it as a way we’re going to be as a ministry. I think sometimes people just need a little permission to move into some of this.
[37:25] Do you have any thoughts for leaders or families on how to do this well?
[42:50] Can you paint a picture of a leader who’s doing things well, who’s functioning with health and being effective for the Kingdom. What does their life look like?
[47:26] How do you guys, as leaders, care for your soul?
Guest Websites
- Alan Fadling at Unhurried Living
- Kristi Gaultiere at Soul Shepherding
- Steve Macchia at Leadership Transformations
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Alan Fadling
Alan Fadling (MDiv) serves as a frequent speaker and consultant with local churches, national organizations and leaders internationally. His content is approachable, usable and transferable. He shows leaders how to get perspective so their leadership flows from a full soul and out of healthy rhythms of rest and work. A trained Spiritual Director, Alan is author of An Unhurried Life (IVP 2013) and An Unhurried Leader (IVP 2017).
Kristi Gaultiere
Kristi Gaultiere (Gaul-tear) has her doctorate in psychology and is a therapist and spiritual director. She and her husband Bill are the founders of a ministry called Soul Shepherding and the authors of Journey of the Soul: A Practical Guide to Emotional & Spiritual Growth. They minister to and train leaders, pastors, spiritual directors, and others through the Soul Shepherding Institute and lead a network of Spiritual Directors and sabbatical coaches. You can learn more at soul shepherding.org and journeyofthesoul.org.
Steve Macchia
Rev. Dr. Stephen A. Macchia is a thought-provoking author and is the Founder and President of Leadership Transformations, Inc (LTI). LTI focuses on the spiritual formation needs of leaders and the spiritual discernment processes of leadership teams in the local church and parachurch ministry settings nationwide. He is also the Director of the Pierce Center for Discipleship-Building at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary.
He and his wife, Ruth, live in beautiful Lexington, MA and enjoy spending time with their two grown children and three beloved grandchildren.
Nathan Foster
Nathan Foster is an author and host of Life With God, a Renovaré Podcast. Formerly, he was an Associate Professor of social work and served as the Andrews Chair in Spiritual Formation at Spring Arbor University. He was also a licensed clinical social worker and certified addictions counselor. Nathan has published two books, including The Making of an Ordinary Saint: My Journey from Frustration to Joy with the Spiritual Disciplines.