In this episode, Nathan asks can­did ques­tions about race: What’s your expe­ri­ence of being black in Amer­i­ca? What do you want white peo­ple to know? What is the Church’s role? Tina Dyer, a racial equi­ty, diver­si­ty, and inclu­sion strate­gist and now Ren­o­varé Board mem­ber, answers with hon­esty and humility.

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