Ren­o­varé Pres­i­dent Ted Har­ro dis­cuss­es his recent pil­grim­age with his son along the Camino de San­ti­a­go, includ­ing how its unex­pect­ed detours taught him the beau­ty of humility.

Show Notes

[1:00] You recent­ly went on a pil­grim­age. Can you dis­cuss pil­grim­age as a spir­i­tu­al practice?

[4:55] I love this ques­tion, where are you going and why? That sounds like a Jesus-type ques­tion. So is the point the des­ti­na­tion, is this a kind of mag­i­cal place that I go and I get a gold star from God for walk­ing 300 miles?

[6:23] So tell us – every­thing went wrong? Tell us about your expe­ri­ence. What was the plan?

[10:08] When I heard that it did­n’t go as planned, there was a part of me that was real­ly sad because I know you had been prepar­ing for this and it was real­ly impor­tant. But I also had a lit­tle smile on my face because I thought, Oh, Ted’s going to learn some­thing, that you can only learn from hav­ing these dis­ap­point­ments, chal­lenges.” Are there things you have been able to unpack from the expe­ri­ence that you’d be will­ing to share?

[17:32] What did you do with the grief of watch­ing Dun­can go on?

[19:50] Talk­ing about humil­i­ty, what were some of the new pieces that opened up for you?

[23:40] How have you made it 55 years with­out bump­ing into your lim­i­ta­tions? There is a gift and a bless­ing in bump­ing into those. In read­ing my dad’s new book on humil­i­ty that’s com­ing out lat­er this year, he reach­es the con­clu­sion that it’s the foun­da­tion­al virtue for spir­i­tu­al formation.

[25:20] How has it been wear­ing for you as you’ve been home for a while now?

[27:43] As we’re talk­ing, I’m reflect­ing on the six months – you have real­ly come in with a high lev­el of humil­i­ty, as a learn­er try­ing to part­ner with God, and that’s been neat to watch. Are there pieces in these months that you’ve learned, or things that might be help­ful for peo­ple to know about Ren­o­varé and your role?


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