Nathan talks with Bob Fryling, author and for­mer pub­lish­er of Inter­Var­si­ty Press, about how to find a tru­ly authen­tic, inte­grat­ed way to lead – from both our inter­nal rela­tion­ship with God and our exter­nal rela­tion­ship with others.

His book is The Lead­er­ship Ellipse.

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