Nate talks with author John Eldredge about heal­ing from the trau­ma of the pan­dem­ic, benev­o­lent detach­ment, what it means to con­se­crate your empa­thy to Christ, and learn­ing to hear the voice of God.

Show Notes

[1:19] What was the impe­tus for this book?

[3:57] I’m glad to hear you ref­er­ence the pan­dem­ic in this way. It has real­ly baf­fled me how silent peo­ple are in terms of its effects. I think it’s going to take 5 or 10 years out of this to real­ize some of the ways that it has neg­a­tive­ly impact­ed, and I wish peo­ple talk more about it.

[8:25] What do you think peo­ple should do (to heal their trau­ma response)?

[15:23] I think I’m hear­ing that instead of cop­ing mech­a­nism that don’t yield fruit or good results, but cop­ing mech­a­nisms that bring life.

[19:50] I real­ly like the idea of benev­o­lent detach­ment. How do you detach and yet use your abil­i­ty to change for good?

[24:26] One of the phras­es I’ll use is trust­ing peo­ple to God. As much as I would like to con­trol and man­age things, there are some limitations.

[25:06] What does this look like for you, and what are some of the chal­lenges you face in mov­ing into benev­o­lent detachment?

[30:33] Why do you think so many Chris­tians are hung up on the idea of hear­ing from God?


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